Breed Comparison: Bouvier des Flandres Versus Irish Setter

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Bouvier des Flandres Versus Irish Setter: Introduction

Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter? Well, you have come to the right place. Because in this article, we will provide you with a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter better suits you.

We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter.

Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.

Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the Bouvier des Flandres and for the Irish Setter. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you with more insight into deciding which pet to get between the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter.

Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the Bouvier des Flandres or the Irish Setter.

Bouvier des Flandres versus Irish Setter: Overview

Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are similar in size. The Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are both large-sized dogs.

Furthermore, the Bouvier des Flandres belongs to the Herding Dogs group. Herding Dogs were bred for moving livestock, including sheep, cattle, and even reindeer. Herding dogs work closely with their human shepherds, and their natural intelligence and responsiveness make them highly trainable. They have high levels of energy, which needs to be channeled properly to prevent destructive behavior. Herding breeds are protective of their people and property and make excellent watchdogs. Their intelligence, agility, and activity level make them well suited to dog sports.

On the other hand, the Irish Setter belongs to the Sporting Dogs group. Sporting Dogs were bred to help hunters catch and retrieve feathered game. Some sporting dog breeds such as Retrievers, which were built for swimming, were bred to hunt waterfowl in water. Whereas sporting dog breeds like setters, spaniels, and pointing breeds were bred to hunt quail, pheasant, and other game birds nest on grasslands. Many Sporting Group breeds have thick, water-repellent coats that protect them from harsh hunting conditions.

Bouvier des Flandres versus Irish Setter: Comparison Table

The table below compares the Bouvier des Flandres to the Irish Setter based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.

When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets

Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.

However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.

Later in this article, we will further explain each factor as it applies to the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter

FactorBouvier des FlandresIrish Setter
Does NOT Shed5/52/5
Does NOT Drool5/54/5
Life Span10 to 12 years11 to 15 years
Good For Novice Owners2/53/5
Tolerates Being Alone2/52/5
Tolerates Hot Weather2/53/5
Dog Friendly2/55/5
Friendly Toward Strangers2/55/5
Easy To Groom2/53/5
Does NOT chew on things4/51/5
Low Prey Drive4/51/5
Tendency NOT to Wander4/51/5
Height23 to 26 inches tall at the shoulder2 feet, 1 inch to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the sho
Adapts Well To Apartment Living3/51/5
General Health3/52/5
Easygoing2/52/5
Tolerates Cold Weather4/54/5
Potential NOT to Gain Weight2/53/5
Intelligence4/55/5
Does NOT Bark or Howl2/52/5
NOT Rambunctious2/51/5
Minimal Exercise Needs2/51/5
Potential For Playfulness4/55/5
Affectionate With Family5/55/5
Kid-Friendly5/55/5
Easy To Train5/54/5
Calmness/ Low Vigor1/53/5
Weight70 to 100 pounds60 to 70 pounds
Average Lifespan11.0 years13.0 years
Average Price$1990$1680
Price Range$1600 – $2500$1200 – $2200
Temperament Score85.4 percent90.9 percent
Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests
  • Cardiac Evaluation
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Eye Examination. Minimum age 18 months. The ABdFC recommends testing be repeated every two years until at least 8 years of age.
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Progressive Retinal Atrophy
    • Intelligence Rank (out of 130 Dog Breeds)2935

    Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the Bouvier des Flandres in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Irish Setter. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.

    The Better-Pet score for the Bouvier des Flandres is 78 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for the Irish Setter is 73 out of 125.

    Based on their Better-Pet scores, the Bouvier des Flandres is a better pet than the Irish Setter. So, you should get the Bouvier des Flandres!

    Although we have done our best to analyze these two dog breeds in a very unbiased way, however, we will like to let you know that there are some dog attributes that cannot be assigned a number for comparison. We cannot put a number on how cute a dog breed is, for example. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Also, the dog breed that best suits you will depend on your peculiar lifestyle, your taste, and your priorities, which we do not know. So, for you to decide on which breed is right for you, read through the rest of the article to further understand both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter so that you can make your own well-informed decision on which pet to get.

    The Most Remarkable Differences Between the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter

    Below is a list of where the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are most different:

    • Bouvier des Flandress do not shed a lot. They are good for people with dog allergies. However, Irish Setters shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.
    • Bouvier des Flandress do not get along well with other dogs. However, Irish Setters get along well with other dogs.
    • Bouvier des Flandress are not very friendly towards strangers. However, Irish Setters are very friendly towards strangers.
    • Bouvier des Flandress are not prone to nip and chew at things. However, Irish Setters are prone to nip and chew at things.
    • Bouvier des Flandress have a very low prey drive. This means they get along well with other pets. However, Irish Setters have a high prey drive. They do not get along well with other pets.
    • Bouvier des Flandress do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them. However, Irish Setters have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.

    The Similarities Between the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter

    The Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are most similar:

    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter do not have the tendency to drool.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are not the best dogs for new dog owners.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter do not like to be left alone.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter cannot tolerate hot weather. They are not suited for hot environments.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter require a lot of grooming and are not very easy to groom.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are easily disturbed by noise in their environments. They are sensitive to human tone. They will understand the tone of your voice when you try to correct their behaviors with a firm tone.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter can tolerate cold weather.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter gain weight easily. You need to pay careful attention to what you feed them.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are highly intelligent.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter have very high energy levels. They need a lot of exercise time to release their high energy.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter require a lot of exercise. They are good for owners who like to exercise.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are very playful.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
    • Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are very easy to train.

    Size Comparison of Bouvier des Flandres versus Irish Setter

    Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter.

    Bouvier des Flandress weigh 70 to 100 pounds when fully grown. Bouvier des Flandress are 23 to 26 inches tall at the shoulder when fully grown.

    On the other hand, Irish Setters weigh 60 to 70 pounds when fully grown. Irish Setters are 2 feet, 1 inch to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the sho when fully grown.

    Lifespan of Bouvier des Flandres versus Irish Setter

    The lifespan of Bouvier des Flandress is between 10 to 12 years. The average lifespan of Bouvier des Flandress is 11.0 years.

    The lifespan of Irish Setters is between 11 to 15 years. The average lifespan of Irish Setters is 13.0 years.

    Irish Setters live longer than Bouvier des Flandress.

    Temperament of the Irish Setter Versus the Bouvier des Flandres

    The Irish Setter has a better temperament than the Bouvier des Flandres.

    This is because the temperament score for the Irish Setter is 90.9 percent while the temperament score for the Bouvier des Flandres is 85.4 percent, according to the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS).

    The American Temperament Test Society (ATTS) is a non-profit organization whose mission is to provide fair and objective evaluations of the temperaments of dog breeds.

    Dog breeds with low temperament scores tend to show unprovoked aggression, they easily panic without quickly recovering from the panic, and they tend to avoid people. However, dog breeds with high temperament scores are not aggressive and are not shy. Also, these dogs are generally friendly and are protective of their owners.

    The average temperament score across all dog breeds (over 250 breeds) is 83.7 percent.

    With its temperament score of 85.4 percent, the Bouvier des Flandres has an above-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.

    With its temperament score of 90.9 percent, the Irish Setter has an above-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.

    The ATTS obtained the temperament scores of the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter by measuring the temperaments of 925 Bouvier des Flandress and 154 Irish Setters.

    Price of Bouvier des Flandres versus Price of Irish Setter

    The average price of the Bouvier des Flandres puppy is $1990. The price of the Bouvier des Flandres typically ranges from $1600 – $2500. We obtained this price information by reviewing the prices of 58 Bouvier des Flandres puppies listed for sale from various sources.

    The average price of the Irish Setter puppy is $1680. The price of the Irish Setter typically ranges from $1200 – $2200. We obtained this price information by collecting and reviewing the prices of 105 Irish Setter puppies listed for sale from various sources.

    The Bouvier des Flandres is more expensive than the Irish Setter.

    The charts below show the price distribution for the Bouvier des Flandres and Irish Setter. For different price points, the charts show how many Bouvier des Flandres puppies or how many Irish Setter puppies are listed for sale at those price points.

    A breakdown of the prices of Bouvier des Flandress. The typical price range is shaded Green.

    A breakdown of the prices of Bouvier des Flandress. The typical price range is shaded Green.

    A breakdown of the prices of Irish Setters

    A breakdown of the prices of Irish Setters

    Note that a lot of factors determine how much you can expect to pay for the Bouvier des Flandres puppy or the Irish Setter puppy. This includes if health screening tests have been performed on the puppy, if the puppy is from a famous pedigree, the US State where the puppy is bred, etc.

    Nevertheless, when looking to buy a puppy, look at buying a puppy only from well-established breeders that breed puppies primarily for the love of dogs, and secondarily for profit. Do not buy a puppy from a puppy mill. Puppy mills mass-produce puppies in bad living conditions for maximum profit.

    You may also consider adopting a dog instead of buying a dog.

    The Intelligence of the Bouvier des Flandres versus the Intelligence of the Irish Setter

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    Bouvier des Flandres Irish Setter
    Intelligence Rank 29 out of 130 dog breeds 35 out of 130 dog breeds
    Trainability Tend To Learn New Commands After 15 To 25 Repetitions Tend To Learn New Commands After 15 To 25 Repetitions

    Professor Stanley Coren, the famous psychology/neuropsychological professor and, dog lover/trainer measured and ranked the intelligence of about 130 different dog breeds.

    According to Prof. Stanley Coren, the total intelligence that a dog demonstrates is the addition of three types of intelligence. These intelligence types are:
    • Instinctive Intelligence: This is the natural intelligence a dog has because of what the dog was bred for. This type of intelligence comes from instinct. For example, dog breeds that were bred for guarding will have high `guarding` instinctive intelligence, while dog breeds that were bred for hunting will what high `hunting` instinctive intelligence. However, you cannot compare the intelligence of dog breeds based on instinctive intelligence because such a comparison will not make sense.
    • Adaptive Intelligence (learning and problem-solving ability): This indicates what a dog can learn to do for himself or herself. It includes learning and benefiting from experience with his environment, solving new problems, and so forth. Adaptive intelligence is specific to each dog, and not breed specific. Thus, two dogs can have remarkably different levels of adaptive intelligence even if they are of the same breed.
    • Working/Obedience Intelligence: This intelligence is the closest to what we might call school-learning ability and it is based upon what the dog can learn to do when instructed by humans. Importantly, different dog breeds have different learning abilities. Also, science has shown that some dog breeds can learn faster than some other breeds. This means certain dog breeds tend to have higher working/obedience intelligence than some other breeds. Dogs with high Working/Obedience Intelligence are smart and easy to train.

    Prof. Coren showed that the Working/Obedience Intelligence of different dog breeds can be measured reliably. Thus, he was able to rank different dog breeds based on their Working/Obedience Intelligence.

    This is important because according to Prof. Coren, 51 percent of a dog`s intelligence comes from its genes while 49 percent of a dog`s intelligence comes from the dog`s environmental circumstances.

    To rank the intelligence of dog breeds, Prof. Coren employed the help of 208 dog obedience judges in North America to fill out a detailed survey on dog obedience. This number represented more than half of all of these judges in North America at the time. He also employed 63 veterinarians and 14 guard dog experts to collect data on the personality of different dog breeds.

    Prof. Coren found that the Bouvier des Flandres has an obedience intelligence rank of 29 out of 130 dog breeds. The Bouvier des Flandres belongs to the `Above Average Working Dogs` category. This means that Bouvier des Flandress tend to learn new commands after 15 to 25 repetitions.

    The Irish Setter has an obedience intelligence rank of 35 out of 130 dog breeds. The Irish Setter belongs to the `Above Average Working Dogs` category. This means that Irish Setters tend to learn new commands after 15 to 25 repetitions.

    The Bouvier des Flandres is more intelligent than the Irish Setter.

    However, Prof. Coren noted that a dog should not be judged based on its intelligence alone, that other factors such as sociability, adorability, and compatibility with the owner are other very important factors that new dog owners need to consider when deciding on a new dog.

    Health Problems of Bouvier des Flandres versus Health Problems of Irish Setter

    Every dog breed has its own set of health problems that it has a tendency to develop. There is nothing like a perfect dog breed.

    Both the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter are prone to certain genetic health conditions. The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) is the organization that keeps track of health problems in dogs. Based on the extensive records that the OFA keeps, the OFA knows what health problems each dog breed is naturally prone to develop. Hence, the OFA recommends which health screening that breeders should perform on a dog breed to make sure that the breeders won`t breed `defective` dog parents that can pass down defective genes to their puppy offspring.

    The more health problems a dog breed is prone to develop, the more health tests the OFA will recommend for that dog breed.

    Based on our review of OFA records, we found that the Bouvier des Flandres is prone to more genetic health problems than the Irish Setter.

    This is because the OFA recommends more screening health tests for the Bouvier des Flandres than for the Irish Setter.

    4 health tests are recommended for Bouvier des Flandres while 3 tests are recommended for the Irish Setter.

    Below is a detailed discussion of health problems in Bouvier des Flandress and in Irish Setters.

    Bouvier des Flandres Health Problems

    Bouvier des Flandress are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Bouvier des Flandres puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a Bouvier des Flandres puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Bouvier des Flandres breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Bouvier des Flandress for:

  • Cardiac Evaluation
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Eye Examination. Minimum age 18 months. The ABdFC recommends testing be repeated every two years until at least 8 years of age.
  • Hip Dysplasia

    • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Bouvier des Flandress here.

    Irish Setter Health Problems

    Irish Setters are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Irish Setter puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a Irish Setter puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Irish Setter breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Irish Setters for:

  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Progressive Retinal Atrophy

    • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Irish Setters here.

    Tolerates Being Alone: Bouvier des Flandres versus Irish Setter

    Bouvier des Flandress do not like to be left alone.

    Irish Setters do not like to be left alone.

    Do Bouvier des Flandress shed more than Irish Setters?

    Bouvier des Flandress do not shed a lot. They are good for people with dog allergies.

    Irish Setters shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.

    Which one drools more, the Bouvier des Flandres or the Irish Setter

    Bouvier des Flandress do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Irish Setters do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Which is Easier to Groom, the Bouvier des Flandres or the Irish Setter?

    Bouvier des Flandress require a lot of grooming and they are not very easy to groom.

    Irish Setters are moderately easy to groom.

    Does the Bouvier des Flandres Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Irish Setter?

    Bouvier des Flandress have a very low prey drive. This means they get won`t chase after smaller pets. They tend to get along well with other pets.

    Irish Setters have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Do Bouvier des Flandress Bark and Howl? What about Irish Setters?

    Bouvier des Flandress are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Irish Setters are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Can Bouvier des Flandress Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Irish Setters Tolerate Cold Weather?

    Bouvier des Flandress can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Irish Setters can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Wanderlust Potential: Bouvier des Flandres vs. Irish Setter

    Bouvier des Flandress do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.

    Irish Setters have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.

    Can Bouvier des Flandress Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Irish Setters Tolerate Hot Weather?

    Bouvier des Flandress cannot tolerate hot weather. They are not suited for hot environments.

    Irish Setters can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the Bouvier des Flandres or the Irish Setter?

    Bouvier des Flandress do not get along well with other dogs.

    Irish Setters get along very well with other dogs.

    Are Bouvier des Flandress good family dogs? What about Irish Setters?

    Bouvier des Flandress are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    Irish Setters are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    How Kid-friendly are Bouvier des Flandress and Irish Setters?

    Bouvier des Flandress get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Irish Setters get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Is the Bouvier des Flandres Easier to Train than the Irish Setter?

    Bouvier des Flandress are very easy to train.

    Irish Setters are very easy to train.

    Is the Bouvier des Flandres Better for Apartment Owners than the Irish Setter?

    Bouvier des Flandress adapt moderately well to apartment living.

    Irish Setters do not adapt well to apartment living.

    Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the Bouvier des Flandres or the Irish Setter?

    Bouvier des Flandress are not the best dogs for new dog owners.

    Irish Setters are OK for new dog owners.

    Conclusion: Bouvier des Flandres versus Irish Setter. Which One is a Better Pet?

    In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the Bouvier des Flandres and the Irish Setter better suits you and your family.