Quick Links: Table of Contents
- Dogue de Bordeaux Versus Mastiff: Introduction
- Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff: Overview
- Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff: Comparison Table
- The Most Remarkable Differences Between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff
- The Similarities Between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff
- Size (Weight and Height) of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff
- Temperament of the Mastiff Versus the Dogue de Bordeaux
- Price of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Price of Mastiff
- Adopting the Dogue de Bordeaux versus Adopting the Mastiff
- The Popularity of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Popularity of Mastiff
- Health Problems of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Health Problems of Mastiff
- Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff?
- Wanderlust Potential: Dogue de Bordeaux vs. Mastiff
- Tolerates Being Alone: Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff
- Can Dogue de Bordeauxs Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Mastiffs Tolerate Hot Weather?
- Is the Dogue de Bordeaux Easier to Train than the Mastiff?
- Do Dogue de Bordeauxs Bark and Howl? What about Mastiffs?
- Can Dogue de Bordeauxs Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Mastiffs Tolerate Cold Weather?
- Do Dogue de Bordeauxs shed more than Mastiffs?
- Does the Dogue de Bordeaux Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Mastiff?
- Are Dogue de Bordeauxs good family dogs? What about Mastiffs?
- How Kid-friendly are Dogue de Bordeauxs and Mastiffs?
- Which one drools more, the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff
- Which is Easier to Groom, the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff?
- Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the Dogue de Bordeaux
- Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the Mastiff
- Other Breed Comparisons that Might Interest You
- Conclusion: Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff. Which One is a Better Pet?
Dogue de Bordeaux Versus Mastiff: Introduction
Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff? Well, you have come to the right place. In this article, we will provide you a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff better suits you.
We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff.
Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.
Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the Dogue de Bordeaux and for the Mastiff. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you more insight into deciding which pet to get between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff.
Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff
Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff: Overview
A very important difference between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff is the size difference between the two dog breeds. The Dogue de Bordeaux is a large-sized dog while the Mastiff is a giant-sized dog.
Furthermore, both the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff are Working Dogs. This means both the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff were developed to assist humans in some capacity – including pulling sleds and carts, guarding flocks, guarding homes, and protecting their families. Breeds in the Working Group are known for their imposing stature, strength, intelligence, and fearless. Because of their size and strength, working dogs require a structured home life and firm, fair, consistent training by someone who can provide leadership without resorting to anger or physical force.
Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff: Comparison Table
The table below compares the Dogue de Bordeaux to the Mastiff based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.
When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets
Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.
However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.
Factor | Dogue de Bordeaux | Mastiff |
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Good For Novice Owners | 1/5 | 1/5 |
Dog Friendly | 1/5 | 2/5 |
Friendly Toward Strangers | 1/5 | 2/5 |
Tendency NOT to Wander | 5/5 | 5/5 |
Tolerates Being Alone | 2/5 | 3/5 |
Tolerates Hot Weather | 2/5 | 1/5 |
General Health | 2/5 | 3/5 |
Easy To Train | 2/5 | 3/5 |
Does NOT Bark or Howl | 4/5 | 4/5 |
NOT Rambunctious | 4/5 | 3/5 |
Calmness/ Low Vigor | 4/5 | 3/5 |
Height | 23 to 27 inches tall at the shoulder | 27 to 32 inches tall at the shoulder |
Tolerates Cold Weather | 3/5 | 4/5 |
Does NOT Shed | 3/5 | 3/5 |
Intelligence | 3/5 | 2/5 |
Potential For Playfulness | 3/5 | 4/5 |
Easygoing | 2/5 | 3/5 |
Potential NOT to Gain Weight | 2/5 | 2/5 |
Does NOT chew on things | 2/5 | 2/5 |
Low Prey Drive | 2/5 | 4/5 |
Adapts Well To Apartment Living | 5/5 | 2/5 |
Affectionate With Family | 5/5 | 5/5 |
Kid-Friendly | 5/5 | 5/5 |
Does NOT Drool | 1/5 | 1/5 |
Easy To Groom | 5/5 | 3/5 |
Minimal Exercise Needs | 1/5 | 2/5 |
Life Span | 8 to 12 years | 6 to 10 years |
Weight | Starts at 100 pounds | 130 to 220 pounds |
Average Lifespan | 10.0 years | 8.0 years |
Average Price | $2270 | $1740 |
Price Range | $1800 – $2500 | $1100 – $2200 |
Temperament Score | 78.0 percent | 100.0 percent |
Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests |
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Popularity out of 200 Dog Breeds | 65 | 28 |
*Data from dogtime.com, OFA.org (The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals), petcalculator.com, wikipedia.org, ATTS.org (the American Temperament Test Society)
Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the Dogue de Bordeaux in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Mastiff. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.
The Better-Pet score for a Dogue de Bordeaux is 70 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for a Mastiff is 72 out of 125.
Based on their Better-Pet scores, the Mastiff is a better pet than the Dogue de Bordeaux. So, you should get the Mastiff!
Although we have done our best to analyze these two dog breeds in a very unbiased way, however, we will like to let you know that there are some dog attributes that cannot be assigned a number for comparison. We cannot put a number on how cute a dog breed is, for example. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Also, the dog breed that best suits you will depend on your peculiar lifestyle, your taste, and your priorities, which we do not know. So, for you to decide on which breed is right for you, read through the rest of the article to further understand both the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff so that you can make your own well-informed decision on which pet to get.
The Most Remarkable Differences Between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff
Below is a list of where the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff are most different:
The Similarities Between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff
The Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff are most similar:
Size (Weight and Height) of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff
Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff.
Dogue de Bordeauxs weigh Starts at 100 pounds when fully grown. Dogue de Bordeauxs are 23 to 27 inches tall at the shoulder when fully grown.
On the other hand, Mastiffs weigh 130 to 220 pounds when fully grown. Mastiffs are 27 to 32 inches tall at the shoulder when fully grown.
Temperament of the Mastiff Versus the Dogue de Bordeaux
The Mastiff has a better temperament than the Dogue de Bordeaux.
This is because the temperament score for the Mastiff is 100.0 percent while the temperament score for the Dogue de Bordeaux is 78.0 percent, according to the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS).
The American Temperament Test Society (ATTS) is a non-profit organization whose mission is to provide fair and objective evaluations of the temperaments of dog breeds.
Dog breeds with low temperament scores tend to show unprovoked aggression, they easily panic without quickly recovering from the panic, and they tend to avoid people. However, dog breeds with high temperament scores are not aggressive and are not shy. Also, these dogs are generally friendly and they are protective of their owners.
The average temperament score across all dog breeds (over 250 breeds) is 83.7 percent.
With its temperament score of 78.0 percent, the Dogue de Bordeaux has a below-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.
With its temperament score of 100.0 percent, the Mastiff has an above-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.
The ATTS obtained the temperament scores of the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff by measuring the temperaments of 100 Dogue de Bordeauxs and 8 Mastiffs.
Price of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Price of Mastiff
The average price of the Dogue de Bordeaux puppy is $2270. The price of the Dogue de Bordeaux typically ranges from $1800 – $2500. However, the price of a Dogue de Bordeaux can be as low as $800 and as high as $4000. We obtained this price information by reviewing the prices of 103 Dogue de Bordeaux puppies listed for sale from various sources.
The average price of the Mastiff puppy is $1740. The price of the Mastiff typically ranges from $1100 – $2200. However, the price of a Mastiff can be as low as $200 and as high as $4600. We obtained this price information by collecting and reviewing the prices of 248 Mastiff puppies listed for sale from various sources.
The Dogue de Bordeaux is more expensive than the Mastiff.
Dogue de Bordeaux | Mastiff | |
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Average Price | $2270 | $1740 |
Price Range | $1800 to $2500 | $1100 to $2200 |
The charts below show the price distribution for the Dogue de Bordeaux and Mastiff. For different price points, the charts show how many Dogue de Bordeaux puppies or how many Mastiff puppies are listed for sale at those price points.
A breakdown of the prices of Dogue de Bordeauxs. The typical price range is shaded Green.
A breakdown of the prices of Mastiffs
Note that a lot of factors determine how much you can expect to pay for the Dogue de Bordeaux puppy or the Mastiff puppy. This includes if health screening tests have been performed on the puppy, if the puppy is from a famous pedigree, the US State where the puppy is bred, etc.
Nevertheless, when looking from a puppy, look at buying a puppy only from well-established breeders that breed puppies primarily for the love of dogs, and secondarily for profit. Do not buy a puppy from one of those puppy mills that mass-produce puppies in bad living conditions for maximum profit.
You may also consider adopting a dog instead of buying a dog.
Adopting the Dogue de Bordeaux versus Adopting the Mastiff
You may consider adopting a dog instead of buying a puppy. Many Dogue de Bordeauxs and many Mastiffs are currently available for adoption.
These adorable and cute dogs are waiting in dog shelters hoping that someday someone will rescue them. Furthermore, adoption costs are lesser than the cost of a new puppy. Dog adoption costs are usually around $300. In addition to your local dog shelter, a good place online to see dogs that are available for adoption is petfinder.com.
Below is an adorable Male Dogue de Bordeaux named Lord Waffles that is currently available for adoption on Petfinder.com. You can find other lovely adoptable Dogue de Bordeauxs like Lord Waffles on pefinder.com.
Also, like Dogue de Bordeauxs, Mastiffs are also available for adoption. For example, Angelo is a Male Mastiff that is currently available for adoption on petfinder.com. You can find more Mastiffs like Angelo that are up for adoption on petfinder.com.
Duke is the name of another Dogue de Bordeaux (Male) on petfinder.com that is looking for a new home.
Also Beaver, an adorable Male Mastiff on petfinder.com that you can adopt.
You can find more Dogue de Bordeauxs and Mastiffs that are available for adoption on petfinder.
The Popularity of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Popularity of Mastiff
Every year, the American Kennel Club (AKC) publishes information on how popular a dog breed is in that particular year. The AKC gets the popularity information of a breed from how many dogs of that breed the owners register with the AKC every year. The AKC collects this data for about 200 dog breeds. The AKC collects this data for purebred dogs only(no mixed or hybrid dogs).
The graphs and the table below show the popularity of the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff over the years.
Based on the AKC popularity data over the years, the Mastiff is more popular with dog owners than the Dogue de Bordeaux. This is because, over the years, the average popularity of the Mastiff is 28 out of about 200 dog breeds while the average popularity of the Dogue de Bordeaux is 65 out of about 200 dog breeds.
Popularity of Dogue de Bordeaux
Popularity of Mastiff
Year | Dogue de Bordeaux Popularity Rank | Mastiff Popularity Rank |
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2013 | 65 | 26 |
2014 | 63 | 26 |
2015 | 63 | 25 |
2016 | 63 | 28 |
2017 | 67 | 28 |
2018 | 67 | 29 |
2019 | 68 | 32 |
2020 | 71 | 33 |
Health Problems of Dogue de Bordeaux versus Health Problems of Mastiff
Every dog breed has its own set of health problems that it has a tendency to develop. Therefore, there is nothing like a perfect puppy.
Both the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff are prone to certain genetic health conditions. The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) is the organization that keeps track of health problems in dogs. Based on the extensive records that the OFA keeps, the OFA knows what health problems each dog breed is naturally prone to develop. Hence, the OFA recommends which health screening that breeders should perform on a dog breed to make sure that the breeders won`t breed `defective` dog parents that can pass down defective genes to their puppy offspring.
The more health problems a dog breed is prone to develop, the more health tests the OFA will recommend for that dog breed.
Based on our review of OFA records, we found that the Mastiff is prone to more genetic health problems than the Dogue de Bordeaux.
This is because the OFA recommends more screening health tests for the Mastiff than for the Dogue de Bordeaux.
6 health tests are recommended for Dogue de Bordeaux while 7 tests are recommended for the Mastiff.
Below is a detailed discussion of health problems in Dogue de Bordeauxs and in Mastiffs.
Dogue de Bordeaux Health Problems
Dogue de Bordeauxs are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Dogue de Bordeaux puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.
The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.
If you want a Dogue de Bordeaux puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Dogue de Bordeaux breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.
The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Dogue de Bordeauxs for:
You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Dogue de Bordeauxs here.
Mastiff Health Problems
Mastiffs are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Mastiff puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.
The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.
If you want a Mastiff puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Mastiff breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.
The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Mastiffs for:
You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Mastiffs here.
More Discussions on Health Problems in Dogue de Bordeauxs and Mastiffs
Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the Dogue de Bordeaux Breed is Shoulder problems.
This is because the Dogue de Bordeaux ranks 2 out of 22 dog breeds for Shoulder problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 250 Dogue de Bordeauxs, 23 of them had Shoulder problems.
The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in Dogue de Bordeauxs, and how common these diseases are in Dogue de Bordeauxs relative to other dog breeds, are given below:
Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the Mastiff Breed is Canine Multifocal Retinopathy problems.
This is because the Mastiff ranks 3 out of 6 dog breeds for Canine Multifocal Retinopathy problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 891 Mastiffs, 14 of them had Canine Multifocal Retinopathy problems.
The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in Mastiffs, and how common these diseases are in Mastiffs relative to other dog breeds, are given below:
The table below lists the common health problems in Dogue de Bordeaux and in Mastiff and the rank (prevalence), compared to other dogs, of these health problems in the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff:
Disease | Dogue de Bordeaux Rank | Mastiff Rank |
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Shoulder problems | 2 out of 22 dog breeds | 9 out of 22 dog breeds |
Hips problems | 4 out of 198 dog breeds | 39 out of 198 dog breeds |
Advanced Cardiac problems | 10 out of 71 dog breeds | 39 out of 71 dog breeds |
Elbow problems | 14 out of 144 dog breeds | 26 out of 144 dog breeds |
Congenital Cardiac problems | 25 out of 159 dog breeds | 53 out of 159 dog breeds |
Eyes problems | 47 out of 182 dog breeds | 43 out of 182 dog breeds |
Thyroid problems | 79 out of 115 dog breeds | 72 out of 115 dog breeds |
Patella problems | 94 out of 145 dog breeds | 131 out of 145 dog breeds |
Canine Multifocal Retinopathy problems | Not Common | 3 out of 6 dog breeds |
Cystinuria problems | Not Common | 3 out of 6 dog breeds |
Progressive Retinal Atrophy problems | Not Common | 12 out of 32 dog breeds |
Degenerative Myelopathy problems | Not Common | 49 out of 70 dog breeds |
*To learn more about each of these diseases, go to OFA.org and search for the disease.
Again, most of these health problems can be prevented through health screening. Responsible breeders screen male and female dog parents for genetic problems. These breeders will only breed dogs that are free of genetic defects. That way, there is little or no chance that their puppies will grow up to have genetic health problems. Always ask a breeder for the list of health tests the breeder screens their dogs for before buying a puppy from such a breeder.
Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff?
Dogue de Bordeauxs are not the best dogs for new dog owners.
Mastiffs are not the best dogs for new dog owners.
Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff?
Dogue de Bordeauxs do not get along well with other dogs.
Mastiffs do not get along well with other dogs.
Wanderlust Potential: Dogue de Bordeaux vs. Mastiff
Dogue de Bordeauxs do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.
Mastiffs do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.
Tolerates Being Alone: Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff
Dogue de Bordeauxs do not like to be left alone.
Mastiffs can be left alone only for a short time.
Can Dogue de Bordeauxs Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Mastiffs Tolerate Hot Weather?
Dogue de Bordeauxs cannot tolerate hot weather. They are not suited for hot environments.
Mastiffs cannot tolerate hot weather. They are not suited for hot environments.
Is the Dogue de Bordeaux Easier to Train than the Mastiff?
Dogue de Bordeauxs are not easy to train.
Mastiffs are fairly easy to train.
Do Dogue de Bordeauxs Bark and Howl? What about Mastiffs?
Dogue de Bordeauxs are not very vocal. They do not tend to bark and howl.
Mastiffs are not very vocal. They do not tend to bark and howl.
Can Dogue de Bordeauxs Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Mastiffs Tolerate Cold Weather?
Dogue de Bordeauxs can moderately tolerate cold weather.
Mastiffs can very well tolerate cold weather.
Do Dogue de Bordeauxs shed more than Mastiffs?
Dogue de Bordeauxs shed moderately.
Mastiffs shed moderately.
Does the Dogue de Bordeaux Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Mastiff?
Dogue de Bordeauxs have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.
Mastiffs have a very low prey drive. This means they get won`t chase after smaller pets. They tend to get along well with other pets.
Is the Dogue de Bordeaux Better for Apartment Owners than the Mastiff?
Dogue de Bordeauxs adapt very well to apartment living.
Mastiffs do not adapt well to apartment living.
Are Dogue de Bordeauxs good family dogs? What about Mastiffs?
Dogue de Bordeauxs are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
Mastiffs are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
How Kid-friendly are Dogue de Bordeauxs and Mastiffs?
Dogue de Bordeauxs get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
Mastiffs get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
Which one drools more, the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff
Dogue de Bordeauxs have a very high tendency to drool.
Mastiffs have a very high tendency to drool.
Which is Easier to Groom, the Dogue de Bordeaux or the Mastiff?
Dogue de Bordeauxs are very easy to groom.
Mastiffs are moderately easy to groom.
Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the Dogue de Bordeaux
Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the Dogue de Bordeaux that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.
We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the Dogue de Bordeaux:
Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the Mastiff
Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the Mastiff that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.
We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the Mastiff:
Other Breed Comparisons that Might Interest You
You may also be interested in how the Dogue de Bordeaux and how the Mastiff compares to other breeds. So, see below the comparison of the Dogue de Bordeaux and of the Mastiff to other breeds:
Dogue de Bordeaux Versus Other Dog Breeds
Dogue de Bordeaux versus Catahoula Bulldog Dogue de Bordeaux versus French Spaniel Dogue de Bordeaux versus Australian Kelpie Dogue de Bordeaux versus Akbash Dogue de Bordeaux versus Shiloh Shepherd Dogue de Bordeaux versus Akita Chow Dogue de Bordeaux versus Puli Dogue de Bordeaux versus Polish Lowland Sheepdog Dogue de Bordeaux versus Japanese Chin Dogue de Bordeaux versus Westiepoo
Mastiff Versus Other Dog Breeds
Mastiff versus Bearded Collie Mastiff versus German Pinscher Mastiff versus Bouvier des Flandres Mastiff versus Belgian Malinois Mastiff versus Skye Terrier Mastiff versus American Bulldog Mastiff versus Giant Schnauzer Mastiff versus Swedish Vallhund Mastiff versus Japanese Chin Mastiff versus Toy Poodle
Conclusion: Dogue de Bordeaux versus Mastiff. Which One is a Better Pet?
In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the Dogue de Bordeaux and the Mastiff better suits you and your family.