Is the English Setter Better than the Harrier as a Pet? Answer…

English Setter versus Harrier

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English Setter Versus Harrier: Introduction

Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the English Setter and the Harrier? Well, you have come to the right place. In this article, we will provide you a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the English Setter and the Harrier better suits you.

We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the English Setter and the Harrier.

Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the English Setter and the Harrier is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.

Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the English Setter and for the Harrier. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you more insight into deciding which pet to get between the English Setter and the Harrier.

Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the English Setter or the Harrier

English Setter versus Harrier: Overview

Both the English Setter and the Harrier are similar in size. The English Setter and the Harrier are both medium-sized dogs.

Furthermore, the English Setter belongs to the Sporting Dogs group. Sporting Dogs were bred to help hunters catch and retrieve feathered game. Some sporting dog breeds such as Retrievers, which were built for swimming, were bred to hunt waterfowl in water. Whereas sporting dog breeds like setters, spaniels, and pointing breeds were bred to hunt quail, pheasant, and other game birds nest on grasslands. Many Sporting Group breeds have thick, water-repellent coats that protect them from harsh hunting conditions.

On the other hand, the Harrier belongs to the Hound Dogs group. Hound Dogs were bred to pursue and hunt warm-blooded animals. Hounds hunt by using their good sight or their good sense of smell. Dogs that belong to the Hound Group have strong prey drives and often will stop at nothing to catch what they are pursuing.

English Setter versus Harrier: Comparison Table

The table below compares the English Setter to the Harrier based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.

When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets

Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.

However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.

Factor English Setter Harrier
Adapts Well To Apartment Living 1/5 1/5
Tolerates Being Alone 1/5 3/5
Height 1 foot, 11 inches to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the 19 to 21 inches tall at the shoulder
Life Span 11 to 15 years 10 to 12 years
Does NOT Drool 4/5 5/5
Calmness/ Low Vigor 4/5 2/5
Good For Novice Owners 3/5 3/5
Tolerates Hot Weather 3/5 4/5
Does NOT Shed 3/5 3/5
Easy To Groom 3/5 5/5
General Health 3/5 5/5
Easy To Train 3/5 2/5
Easygoing 2/5 4/5
Tolerates Cold Weather 4/5 3/5
Does NOT chew on things 2/5 3/5
Does NOT Bark or Howl 2/5 2/5
NOT Rambunctious 2/5 1/5
Weight 45 to 80 pounds 45 to 60 pounds
Affectionate With Family 5/5 4/5
Kid-Friendly 5/5 5/5
Dog Friendly 5/5 5/5
Friendly Toward Strangers 5/5 5/5
Potential NOT to Gain Weight 1/5 3/5
Intelligence 5/5 4/5
Low Prey Drive 1/5 2/5
Tendency NOT to Wander 1/5 1/5
Minimal Exercise Needs 1/5 1/5
Potential For Playfulness 5/5 5/5
Average Lifespan 13.0 years 11.0 years
Average Price $1020 No Data
Price Range $800 – $1200 No Data
Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests
  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Congenital Deafness
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Eye Examination- minimum age 12 months
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Popularity out of 200 Dog Breeds 95 183

    *Data from dogtime.com, OFA.org (The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals), petcalculator.com, wikipedia.org, ATTS.org (the American Temperament Test Society)

    Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the English Setter in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Harrier. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.

    The Better-Pet score for a English Setter is 74 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for a Harrier is 81 out of 125.

    Based on their Better-Pet scores, the Harrier is a better pet than the English Setter. So, you should get the Harrier!

    Although we have done our best to analyze these two dog breeds in a very unbiased way, however, we will like to let you know that there are some dog attributes that cannot be assigned a number for comparison. We cannot put a number on how cute a dog breed is, for example. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Also, the dog breed that best suits you will depend on your peculiar lifestyle, your taste, and your priorities, which we do not know. So, for you to decide on which breed is right for you, read through the rest of the article to further understand both the English Setter and the Harrier so that you can make your own well-informed decision on which pet to get.

    The Similarities Between the English Setter and the Harrier

    The English Setter and the Harrier are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the English Setter and the Harrier are most similar:

  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier do not adapt well to apartment living.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier do not have the tendency to drool.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier can tolerate cold weather.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier are prone to nip and chew at things.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier have very high energy levels. They need a lot of exercise time to release their high energy.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier get along well with other dogs.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier are very friendly towards strangers.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier are highly intelligent.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier have a high prey drive. They do not get along well with other pets.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier require a lot of exercise. They are good for owners who like to exercise.
  • Both the English Setter and the Harrier are very playful.
  • Size (Weight and Height) of English Setter versus Harrier

    Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the English Setter and the Harrier.

    English Setters weigh 45 to 80 pounds when fully grown. English Setters are 1 foot, 11 inches to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the when fully grown.

    On the other hand, Harriers weigh 45 to 60 pounds when fully grown. Harriers are 19 to 21 inches tall at the shoulder when fully grown.

    Adopting the English Setter versus Adopting the Harrier

    You may consider adopting a dog instead of buying a puppy. Many English Setters and many Harriers are currently available for adoption.

    These adorable and cute dogs are waiting in dog shelters hoping that someday someone will rescue them. Furthermore, adoption costs are lesser than the cost of a new puppy. Dog adoption costs are usually around $300. In addition to your local dog shelter, a good place online to see dogs that are available for adoption is petfinder.com.

    Below is an adorable Male English Setter named Porter that is currently available for adoption on Petfinder.com. You can find other lovely adoptable English Setters like Porter on pefinder.com.

    Also, like English Setters, Harriers are also available for adoption. For example, Harold is a Male Harrier that is currently available for adoption on petfinder.com. You can find more Harriers like Harold that are up for adoption on petfinder.com.

    The English Setter and the Harrier can both be adopted. Images from petfinder.com

    Sawyer is the name of another English Setter (Male) on petfinder.com that is looking for a new home.

    You can find more English Setters and Harriers that are available for adoption on petfinder.

    The Popularity of English Setter versus Popularity of Harrier

    Every year, the American Kennel Club (AKC) publishes information on how popular a dog breed is in that particular year. The AKC gets the popularity information of a breed from how many dogs of that breed the owners register with the AKC every year. The AKC collects this data for about 200 dog breeds. The AKC collects this data for purebred dogs only(no mixed or hybrid dogs).

    The graphs and the table below show the popularity of the English Setter and the Harrier over the years.

    Based on the AKC popularity data over the years, the English Setter is more popular with dog owners than the Harrier. This is because, over the years, the average popularity of the English Setter is 95 out of about 200 dog breeds while the average popularity of the Harrier is 183 out of about 200 dog breeds.

    Popularity of English Setter

    Popularity of English Setter

    Popularity of Harrier

    Popularity of Harrier

    Year English Setter Popularity Rank Harrier Popularity Rank
    2013 91 173
    2014 89 181
    2015 96 183
    2016 102 186
    2017 95 183
    2018 94 189
    2019 98 186
    2020 101 190

    Health Problems of English Setter versus Health Problems of Harrier

    Every dog breed has its own set of health problems that it has a tendency to develop. Therefore, there is nothing like a perfect puppy.

    Both the English Setter and the Harrier are prone to certain genetic health conditions. The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) is the organization that keeps track of health problems in dogs. Based on the extensive records that the OFA keeps, the OFA knows what health problems each dog breed is naturally prone to develop. Hence, the OFA recommends which health screening that breeders should perform on a dog breed to make sure that the breeders won`t breed `defective` dog parents that can pass down defective genes to their puppy offspring.

    The more health problems a dog breed is prone to develop, the more health tests the OFA will recommend for that dog breed.

    Based on our review of OFA records, we found that the English Setter is prone to more genetic health problems than the Harrier.

    This is because the OFA recommends more screening health tests for the English Setter than for the Harrier.

    4 health tests are recommended for English Setter while 2 tests are recommended for the Harrier.

    Below is a detailed discussion of health problems in English Setters and in Harriers.

    English Setter Health Problems

    English Setters are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing English Setter puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a English Setter puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your English Setter breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen English Setters for:

  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Congenital Deafness
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for English Setters here.

    Harrier Health Problems

    Harriers are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Harrier puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a Harrier puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Harrier breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Harriers for:

  • Eye Examination- minimum age 12 months
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Harriers here.

    More Discussions on Health Problems in English Setters and Harriers

    Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the English Setter Breed is Baer Hearing (Es) problems.

    This is because the English Setter ranks 1 out of 1 dog breeds for Baer Hearing (Es) problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 4303 English Setters, 4 of them had Baer Hearing (Es) problems.

    The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in English Setters, and how common these diseases are in English Setters relative to other dog breeds, are given below:

  • Baer Hearing (Es) problems: Rank 1 out of 1 Dog Breeds
  • Thyroid problems: Rank 1 out of 115 Dog Breeds
  • Baer Hearing Test problems: Rank 4 out of 21 Dog Breeds
  • Elbow problems: Rank 28 out of 144 Dog Breeds
  • Hips problems: Rank 70 out of 198 Dog Breeds
  • Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the Harrier Breed is Hips problems.

    This is because the Harrier ranks 76 out of 198 dog breeds for Hips problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 375 Harriers, 58 of them had Hips problems.

    The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in Harriers, and how common these diseases are in Harriers relative to other dog breeds, are given below:

  • Hips problems: Rank 76 out of 198 Dog Breeds
  • The table below lists the common health problems in English Setter and in Harrier and the rank (prevalence), compared to other dogs, of these health problems in the English Setter and the Harrier:

    Disease English Setter Rank Harrier Rank
    Baer Hearing (Es) problems 1 out of 1 dog breeds Not Common
    Thyroid problems 1 out of 115 dog breeds Not Common
    Baer Hearing Test problems 4 out of 21 dog breeds Not Common
    Elbow problems 28 out of 144 dog breeds Not Common
    Hips problems 70 out of 198 dog breeds 76 out of 198 dog breeds

    *To learn more about each of these diseases, go to OFA.org and search for the disease.

    Again, most of these health problems can be prevented through health screening. Responsible breeders screen male and female dog parents for genetic problems. These breeders will only breed dogs that are free of genetic defects. That way, there is little or no chance that their puppies will grow up to have genetic health problems. Always ask a breeder for the list of health tests the breeder screens their dogs for before buying a puppy from such a breeder.

    Is the English Setter Better for Apartment Owners than the Harrier?

    English Setters do not adapt well to apartment living.

    Harriers do not adapt well to apartment living.

    Tolerates Being Alone: English Setter versus Harrier

    English Setters do not like to be left alone.

    Harriers can be left alone only for a short time.

    Which one drools more, the English Setter or the Harrier

    English Setters do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Harriers do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the English Setter or the Harrier?

    English Setters are OK for new dog owners.

    Harriers are OK for new dog owners.

    Can English Setters Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Harriers Tolerate Hot Weather?

    English Setters can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Harriers can tolerate hot weather.

    Do English Setters shed more than Harriers?

    English Setters shed moderately.

    Harriers shed moderately.

    Which is Easier to Groom, the English Setter or the Harrier?

    English Setters are moderately easy to groom.

    Harriers are very easy to groom.

    Is the English Setter Easier to Train than the Harrier?

    English Setters are fairly easy to train.

    Harriers are not easy to train.

    Can English Setters Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Harriers Tolerate Cold Weather?

    English Setters can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Harriers can moderately tolerate cold weather.

    Do English Setters Bark and Howl? What about Harriers?

    English Setters are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Harriers are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Are English Setters good family dogs? What about Harriers?

    English Setters are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    Harriers are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    How Kid-friendly are English Setters and Harriers?

    English Setters get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Harriers get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the English Setter or the Harrier?

    English Setters get along very well with other dogs.

    Harriers get along very well with other dogs.

    Does the English Setter Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Harrier?

    English Setters have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Harriers have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Wanderlust Potential: English Setter vs. Harrier

    English Setters have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.

    Harriers have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.

    Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the English Setter

    Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the English Setter that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.

    We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the English Setter:

  • Irish Setter (83 percent match with English Setter). Here is our comparison of the Harrier vs Irish Setter.
  • Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the Harrier

    Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the Harrier that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.

    We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the Harrier:

  • American Foxhound (82 percent match with Harrier). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs American Foxhound.
  • Black and Tan Coonhound (75 percent match with Harrier). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Black and Tan Coonhound.
  • Black Mouth Cur (75 percent match with Harrier). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Black Mouth Cur.
  • Bluetick Coonhound (75 percent match with Harrier). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Bluetick Coonhound.
  • Other Breed Comparisons that Might Interest You

    You may also be interested in how the English Setter and how the Harrier compares to other breeds. So, see below the comparison of the English Setter and of the Harrier to other breeds:

    English Setter Versus Other Dog Breeds

    English Setter versus Bluetick Coonhound     English Setter versus Redbone Coonhound     English Setter versus Great Dane     English Setter versus Bolognese     English Setter versus Patterdale Terrier     English Setter versus Pointer     English Setter versus Pointer     English Setter versus Labradoodle     English Setter versus Pomsky     English Setter versus English Springer Spaniel     

    Harrier Versus Other Dog Breeds

    Harrier versus Welsh Terrier     Harrier versus Karelian Bear Dog     Harrier versus Afghan Hound     Harrier versus Cavapoo     Harrier versus King Shepherd     Harrier versus Komondor     Harrier versus Lhasapoo     Harrier versus Chinese Crested     Harrier versus Maltese     Harrier versus Golden Cocker Retriever     

    Conclusion: English Setter versus Harrier. Which One is a Better Pet?

    In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the English Setter and the Harrier better suits you and your family.