Which is Better between the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd? A Very Detailed Review.

English Setter versus Pyrenean Shepherd

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English Setter Versus Pyrenean Shepherd: Introduction

Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd? Well, you have come to the right place. In this article, we will provide you a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd better suits you.

We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd.

Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.

Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the English Setter and for the Pyrenean Shepherd. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you more insight into deciding which pet to get between the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd.

Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the English Setter or the Pyrenean Shepherd

English Setter versus Pyrenean Shepherd: Overview

A very important difference between the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd is the size difference between the two dog breeds. The English Setter is a medium-sized dog while the Pyrenean Shepherd is a small-sized dog.

Furthermore, the English Setter belongs to the Sporting Dogs group. Sporting Dogs were bred to help hunters catch and retrieve feathered game. Some sporting dog breeds such as Retrievers, which were built for swimming, were bred to hunt waterfowl in water. Whereas sporting dog breeds like setters, spaniels, and pointing breeds were bred to hunt quail, pheasant, and other game birds nest on grasslands. Many Sporting Group breeds have thick, water-repellent coats that protect them from harsh hunting conditions.

On the other hand, the Pyrenean Shepherd belongs to the Herding Dogs group. Herding Dogs were bred for moving livestock, including sheep, cattle, and even reindeer. Herding dogs work closely with their human shepherds, and their natural intelligence and responsiveness make them highly trainable. They have high levels of energy, which needs to be channeled properly to prevent destructive behavior. Herding breeds are protective of their people and property and make excellent watchdogs. Their intelligence, agility, and activity level make them well suited to dog sports.

English Setter versus Pyrenean Shepherd: Comparison Table

The table below compares the English Setter to the Pyrenean Shepherd based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.

When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets

Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.

However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.

Factor English Setter Pyrenean Shepherd
Adapts Well To Apartment Living 1/5 5/5
Tolerates Being Alone 1/5 1/5
Height 1 foot, 11 inches to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the 15 to 21 inches tall at the shoulder
Life Span 11 to 15 years 15 to 17 years
Does NOT Drool 4/5 5/5
Calmness/ Low Vigor 4/5 1/5
Good For Novice Owners 3/5 2/5
Tolerates Hot Weather 3/5 3/5
Does NOT Shed 3/5 3/5
Easy To Groom 3/5 3/5
General Health 3/5 2/5
Easy To Train 3/5 2/5
Easygoing 2/5 2/5
Tolerates Cold Weather 4/5 4/5
Does NOT chew on things 2/5 3/5
Does NOT Bark or Howl 2/5 1/5
NOT Rambunctious 2/5 2/5
Weight 45 to 80 pounds 25 to 30 pounds
Affectionate With Family 5/5 5/5
Kid-Friendly 5/5 5/5
Dog Friendly 5/5 2/5
Friendly Toward Strangers 5/5 2/5
Potential NOT to Gain Weight 1/5 3/5
Intelligence 5/5 4/5
Low Prey Drive 1/5 2/5
Tendency NOT to Wander 1/5 4/5
Minimal Exercise Needs 1/5 1/5
Potential For Playfulness 5/5 5/5
Average Lifespan 13.0 years 16.0 years
Average Price $1020 No Data
Price Range $800 – $1200 No Data
Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests
  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Congenital Deafness
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Cardiac Evaluation
  • DNA Repository
  • Eye Examination
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Patellar Luxation
  • Popularity out of 200 Dog Breeds 95 178

    *Data from dogtime.com, OFA.org (The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals), petcalculator.com, wikipedia.org, ATTS.org (the American Temperament Test Society)

    Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the English Setter in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Pyrenean Shepherd. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.

    The Better-Pet score for a English Setter is 74 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for a Pyrenean Shepherd is 72 out of 125.

    Based on their Better-Pet scores, the English Setter is a better pet than the Pyrenean Shepherd. So, you should get the English Setter!

    Although we have done our best to analyze these two dog breeds in a very unbiased way, however, we will like to let you know that there are some dog attributes that cannot be assigned a number for comparison. We cannot put a number on how cute a dog breed is, for example. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Also, the dog breed that best suits you will depend on your peculiar lifestyle, your taste, and your priorities, which we do not know. So, for you to decide on which breed is right for you, read through the rest of the article to further understand both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd so that you can make your own well-informed decision on which pet to get.

    The Most Remarkable Differences Between the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd

    Below is a list of where the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are most different:

  • English Setters do not adapt well to apartment living. However, Pyrenean Shepherds adapt well to apartment living.
  • English Setters do the things they do with very low vigor. They are not forceful. However, Pyrenean Shepherds do things with high intensity. They can be very forceful.
  • English Setters get along well with other dogs. However, Pyrenean Shepherds do not get along well with other dogs.
  • English Setters are very friendly towards strangers. However, Pyrenean Shepherds are not very friendly towards strangers.
  • English Setters have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects. However, Pyrenean Shepherds do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.
  • The Similarities Between the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd

    The English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are most similar:

  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd do not like to be left alone.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd do not have the tendency to drool.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are easily disturbed by noise in their environments. They are sensitive to human tone. They will understand the tone of your voice when you try to correct their behaviors with a firm tone.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd can tolerate cold weather.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are prone to nip and chew at things.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd have very high energy levels. They need a lot of exercise time to release their high energy.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are highly intelligent.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd have a high prey drive. They do not get along well with other pets.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd require a lot of exercise. They are good for owners who like to exercise.
  • Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are very playful.
  • Size (Weight and Height) of English Setter versus Pyrenean Shepherd

    Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd.

    English Setters weigh 45 to 80 pounds when fully grown. English Setters are 1 foot, 11 inches to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the when fully grown.

    On the other hand, Pyrenean Shepherds weigh 25 to 30 pounds when fully grown. Pyrenean Shepherds are 15 to 21 inches tall at the shoulder when fully grown.

    Adopting the English Setter versus Adopting the Pyrenean Shepherd

    You may consider adopting a dog instead of buying a puppy. Many English Setters and many Pyrenean Shepherds are currently available for adoption.

    These adorable and cute dogs are waiting in dog shelters hoping that someday someone will rescue them. Furthermore, adoption costs are lesser than the cost of a new puppy. Dog adoption costs are usually around $300. In addition to your local dog shelter, a good place online to see dogs that are available for adoption is petfinder.com.

    Below is an adorable Male English Setter named Available – Walter/Phillip that is currently available for adoption on Petfinder.com. You can find other lovely adoptable English Setters like Available – Walter/Phillip on pefinder.com.

    Also, like English Setters, Pyrenean Shepherds are also available for adoption. For example, Boone is a Male Pyrenean Shepherd that is currently available for adoption on petfinder.com. You can find more Pyrenean Shepherds like Boone that are up for adoption on petfinder.com.

    The English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd can both be adopted. Images from petfinder.com

    Charley is the name of another English Setter (Male) on petfinder.com that is looking for a new home.

    You can find more English Setters and Pyrenean Shepherds that are available for adoption on petfinder.

    The Popularity of English Setter versus Popularity of Pyrenean Shepherd

    Every year, the American Kennel Club (AKC) publishes information on how popular a dog breed is in that particular year. The AKC gets the popularity information of a breed from how many dogs of that breed the owners register with the AKC every year. The AKC collects this data for about 200 dog breeds. The AKC collects this data for purebred dogs only(no mixed or hybrid dogs).

    The graphs and the table below show the popularity of the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd over the years.

    Based on the AKC popularity data over the years, the English Setter is more popular with dog owners than the Pyrenean Shepherd. This is because, over the years, the average popularity of the English Setter is 95 out of about 200 dog breeds while the average popularity of the Pyrenean Shepherd is 178 out of about 200 dog breeds.

    Popularity of English Setter

    Popularity of English Setter

    Popularity of Pyrenean Shepherd

    Popularity of Pyrenean Shepherd

    Year English Setter Popularity Rank Pyrenean Shepherd Popularity Rank
    2013 91 169
    2014 89 178
    2015 96 176
    2016 102 176
    2017 95 180
    2018 94 181
    2019 98 182
    2020 101 182

    Health Problems of English Setter versus Health Problems of Pyrenean Shepherd

    Every dog breed has its own set of health problems that it has a tendency to develop. Therefore, there is nothing like a perfect puppy.

    Both the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd are prone to certain genetic health conditions. The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) is the organization that keeps track of health problems in dogs. Based on the extensive records that the OFA keeps, the OFA knows what health problems each dog breed is naturally prone to develop. Hence, the OFA recommends which health screening that breeders should perform on a dog breed to make sure that the breeders won`t breed `defective` dog parents that can pass down defective genes to their puppy offspring.

    The more health problems a dog breed is prone to develop, the more health tests the OFA will recommend for that dog breed.

    Based on our review of OFA records, we found that the Pyrenean Shepherd is prone to more genetic health problems than the English Setter.

    This is because the OFA recommends more screening health tests for the Pyrenean Shepherd than for the English Setter.

    4 health tests are recommended for English Setter while 5 tests are recommended for the Pyrenean Shepherd.

    Below is a detailed discussion of health problems in English Setters and in Pyrenean Shepherds.

    English Setter Health Problems

    English Setters are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing English Setter puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a English Setter puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your English Setter breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen English Setters for:

  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Congenital Deafness
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for English Setters here.

    Pyrenean Shepherd Health Problems

    Pyrenean Shepherds are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Pyrenean Shepherd puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a Pyrenean Shepherd puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Pyrenean Shepherd breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Pyrenean Shepherds for:

  • Cardiac Evaluation
  • DNA Repository
  • Eye Examination
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Patellar Luxation
  • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Pyrenean Shepherds here.

    More Discussions on Health Problems in English Setters and Pyrenean Shepherds

    Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the English Setter Breed is Baer Hearing (Es) problems.

    This is because the English Setter ranks 1 out of 1 dog breeds for Baer Hearing (Es) problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 4303 English Setters, 4 of them had Baer Hearing (Es) problems.

    The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in English Setters, and how common these diseases are in English Setters relative to other dog breeds, are given below:

  • Baer Hearing (Es) problems: Rank 1 out of 1 Dog Breeds
  • Thyroid problems: Rank 1 out of 115 Dog Breeds
  • Baer Hearing Test problems: Rank 4 out of 21 Dog Breeds
  • Elbow problems: Rank 28 out of 144 Dog Breeds
  • Hips problems: Rank 70 out of 198 Dog Breeds
  • Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the Pyrenean Shepherd Breed is Dentition Database problems.

    This is because the Pyrenean Shepherd ranks 24 out of 49 dog breeds for Dentition Database problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 79 Pyrenean Shepherds, 4 of them had Dentition Database problems.

    The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in Pyrenean Shepherds, and how common these diseases are in Pyrenean Shepherds relative to other dog breeds, are given below:

  • Dentition Database problems: Rank 24 out of 49 Dog Breeds
  • Congenital Cardiac problems: Rank 27 out of 159 Dog Breeds
  • Eyes problems: Rank 44 out of 182 Dog Breeds
  • Hips problems: Rank 71 out of 198 Dog Breeds
  • Patella problems: Rank 72 out of 145 Dog Breeds
  • The table below lists the common health problems in English Setter and in Pyrenean Shepherd and the rank (prevalence), compared to other dogs, of these health problems in the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd:

    Disease English Setter Rank Pyrenean Shepherd Rank
    Baer Hearing (Es) problems 1 out of 1 dog breeds Not Common
    Thyroid problems 1 out of 115 dog breeds Not Common
    Baer Hearing Test problems 4 out of 21 dog breeds Not Common
    Elbow problems 28 out of 144 dog breeds Not Common
    Hips problems 70 out of 198 dog breeds 71 out of 198 dog breeds
    Dentition Database problems Not Common 24 out of 49 dog breeds
    Congenital Cardiac problems Not Common 27 out of 159 dog breeds
    Eyes problems Not Common 44 out of 182 dog breeds
    Patella problems Not Common 72 out of 145 dog breeds

    *To learn more about each of these diseases, go to OFA.org and search for the disease.

    Again, most of these health problems can be prevented through health screening. Responsible breeders screen male and female dog parents for genetic problems. These breeders will only breed dogs that are free of genetic defects. That way, there is little or no chance that their puppies will grow up to have genetic health problems. Always ask a breeder for the list of health tests the breeder screens their dogs for before buying a puppy from such a breeder.

    Is the English Setter Better for Apartment Owners than the Pyrenean Shepherd?

    English Setters do not adapt well to apartment living.

    Pyrenean Shepherds adapt very well to apartment living.

    Tolerates Being Alone: English Setter versus Pyrenean Shepherd

    English Setters do not like to be left alone.

    Pyrenean Shepherds do not like to be left alone.

    Which one drools more, the English Setter or the Pyrenean Shepherd

    English Setters do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Pyrenean Shepherds do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the English Setter or the Pyrenean Shepherd?

    English Setters are OK for new dog owners.

    Pyrenean Shepherds are not the best dogs for new dog owners.

    Can English Setters Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Pyrenean Shepherds Tolerate Hot Weather?

    English Setters can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Pyrenean Shepherds can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Do English Setters shed more than Pyrenean Shepherds?

    English Setters shed moderately.

    Pyrenean Shepherds shed moderately.

    Which is Easier to Groom, the English Setter or the Pyrenean Shepherd?

    English Setters are moderately easy to groom.

    Pyrenean Shepherds are moderately easy to groom.

    Is the English Setter Easier to Train than the Pyrenean Shepherd?

    English Setters are fairly easy to train.

    Pyrenean Shepherds are not easy to train.

    Can English Setters Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Pyrenean Shepherds Tolerate Cold Weather?

    English Setters can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Pyrenean Shepherds can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Do English Setters Bark and Howl? What about Pyrenean Shepherds?

    English Setters are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Pyrenean Shepherds are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Are English Setters good family dogs? What about Pyrenean Shepherds?

    English Setters are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    Pyrenean Shepherds are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    How Kid-friendly are English Setters and Pyrenean Shepherds?

    English Setters get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Pyrenean Shepherds get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the English Setter or the Pyrenean Shepherd?

    English Setters get along very well with other dogs.

    Pyrenean Shepherds do not get along well with other dogs.

    Does the English Setter Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Pyrenean Shepherd?

    English Setters have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Pyrenean Shepherds have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Wanderlust Potential: English Setter vs. Pyrenean Shepherd

    English Setters have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.

    Pyrenean Shepherds do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.

    Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the English Setter

    Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the English Setter that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.

    We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the English Setter:

  • Irish Setter (83 percent match with English Setter). Here is our comparison of the Pyrenean Shepherd vs Irish Setter.
  • Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the Pyrenean Shepherd

    Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the Pyrenean Shepherd that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.

    We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the Pyrenean Shepherd:

  • Cairn Terrier (73 percent match with Pyrenean Shepherd). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Cairn Terrier.
  • Lakeland Terrier (73 percent match with Pyrenean Shepherd). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Lakeland Terrier.
  • Pomsky (73 percent match with Pyrenean Shepherd). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Pomsky.
  • Other Breed Comparisons that Might Interest You

    You may also be interested in how the English Setter and how the Pyrenean Shepherd compares to other breeds. So, see below the comparison of the English Setter and of the Pyrenean Shepherd to other breeds:

    English Setter Versus Other Dog Breeds

    English Setter versus Maltese     English Setter versus Giant Schnauzer     English Setter versus Affenhuahua     English Setter versus Black Mouth Cur     English Setter versus Chi-Poo     English Setter versus German Wirehaired Pointer     English Setter versus Irish Setter     English Setter versus Bedlington Terrier     English Setter versus Basset Fauve de Bretagne     English Setter versus Brussels Griffon     

    Pyrenean Shepherd Versus Other Dog Breeds

    Pyrenean Shepherd versus Golden Retriever     Pyrenean Shepherd versus American Hairless Terrier     Pyrenean Shepherd versus Scottish Deerhound     Pyrenean Shepherd versus Icelandic Sheepdog     Pyrenean Shepherd versus Rhodesian Ridgeback     Pyrenean Shepherd versus Glen of Imaal Terrier     Pyrenean Shepherd versus King Shepherd     Pyrenean Shepherd versus Standard Poodle     Pyrenean Shepherd versus Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen     Pyrenean Shepherd versus Catahoula Bulldog     

    Conclusion: English Setter versus Pyrenean Shepherd. Which One is a Better Pet?

    In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the English Setter and the Pyrenean Shepherd better suits you and your family.