Differences and Similarities between the English Setter and the Shiba Inu.

English Setter versus Shiba Inu

Quick Links: Table of Contents

English Setter Versus Shiba Inu: Introduction

Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the English Setter and the Shiba Inu? Well, you have come to the right place. In this article, we will provide you a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the English Setter and the Shiba Inu better suits you.

We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu.

Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the English Setter and the Shiba Inu is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.

Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the English Setter and for the Shiba Inu. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you more insight into deciding which pet to get between the English Setter and the Shiba Inu.

Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the English Setter or the Shiba Inu

English Setter versus Shiba Inu

English Setter versus Shiba Inu: Overview

A very important difference between the English Setter and the Shiba Inu is the size difference between the two dog breeds. The English Setter is a medium-sized dog while the Shiba Inu is a small-sized dog.

Furthermore, the English Setter belongs to the Sporting Dogs group. Sporting Dogs were bred to help hunters catch and retrieve feathered game. Some sporting dog breeds such as Retrievers, which were built for swimming, were bred to hunt waterfowl in water. Whereas sporting dog breeds like setters, spaniels, and pointing breeds were bred to hunt quail, pheasant, and other game birds nest on grasslands. Many Sporting Group breeds have thick, water-repellent coats that protect them from harsh hunting conditions.

On the other hand, the Shiba Inu belongs to the Companion Dogs group. Companion Dogs were bred to be companions for humans. Their main goal in life is to be with people, and they will be very sad if left to themselves for long hours day after day.

English Setter versus Shiba Inu: Comparison Table

The table below compares the English Setter to the Shiba Inu based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.

When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets

Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.

However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.

Factor English Setter Shiba Inu
Adapts Well To Apartment Living 1/5 5/5
Tolerates Being Alone 1/5 5/5
Height 1 foot, 11 inches to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the 13 to 17 inches tall at the shoulder
Life Span 11 to 15 years 12 to 16 years
Does NOT Drool 4/5 5/5
Calmness/ Low Vigor 4/5 4/5
Good For Novice Owners 3/5 4/5
Tolerates Hot Weather 3/5 3/5
Does NOT Shed 3/5 2/5
Easy To Groom 3/5 4/5
General Health 3/5 3/5
Easy To Train 3/5 2/5
Easygoing 2/5 3/5
Tolerates Cold Weather 4/5 4/5
Does NOT chew on things 2/5 2/5
Does NOT Bark or Howl 2/5 2/5
NOT Rambunctious 2/5 2/5
Weight 45 to 80 pounds 17 to 23 pounds
Affectionate With Family 5/5 4/5
Kid-Friendly 5/5 3/5
Dog Friendly 5/5 3/5
Friendly Toward Strangers 5/5 3/5
Potential NOT to Gain Weight 1/5 4/5
Intelligence 5/5 4/5
Low Prey Drive 1/5 3/5
Tendency NOT to Wander 1/5 2/5
Minimal Exercise Needs 1/5 3/5
Potential For Playfulness 5/5 3/5
Average Lifespan 13.0 years 14.0 years
Average Price $1020 $2130
Price Range $800 – $1200 $1600 – $2500
Temperament Score 81.3 percent 67.9 percent
Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests
  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Congenital Deafness
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Eye Examination
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Patellar Luxation
  • Popularity out of 200 Dog Breeds 95 44

    *Data from dogtime.com, OFA.org (The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals), petcalculator.com, wikipedia.org, ATTS.org (the American Temperament Test Society)

    Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the English Setter in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Shiba Inu. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.

    The Better-Pet score for a English Setter is 74 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for a Shiba Inu is 82 out of 125.

    Based on their Better-Pet scores, the Shiba Inu is a better pet than the English Setter. So, you should get the Shiba Inu!

    Although we have done our best to analyze these two dog breeds in a very unbiased way, however, we will like to let you know that there are some dog attributes that cannot be assigned a number for comparison. We cannot put a number on how cute a dog breed is, for example. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Also, the dog breed that best suits you will depend on your peculiar lifestyle, your taste, and your priorities, which we do not know. So, for you to decide on which breed is right for you, read through the rest of the article to further understand both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu so that you can make your own well-informed decision on which pet to get.

    English Setter versus Shiba Inu

    The Most Remarkable Differences Between the English Setter and the Shiba Inu

    Below is a list of where the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are most different:

  • English Setters do not adapt well to apartment living. However, Shiba Inus adapt well to apartment living.
  • English Setters do not like to be left alone. However, Shiba Inus can be left alone for some time without problems.
  • English Setters gain weight easily. You need to pay careful attention to what you feed them. However, Shiba Inus are not prone to gaining weight easily.
  • The Similarities Between the English Setter and the Shiba Inu

    The English Setter and the Shiba Inu are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are most similar:

  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu do not have the tendency to drool.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu do the things they do with very low vigor. They are not forceful.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are easily disturbed by noise in their environments. They are sensitive to human tone. They will understand the tone of your voice when you try to correct their behaviors with a firm tone.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu can tolerate cold weather.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are prone to nip and chew at things.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu have very high energy levels. They need a lot of exercise time to release their high energy.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are highly intelligent.
  • Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.
  • Size (Weight and Height) of English Setter versus Shiba Inu

    Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the English Setter and the Shiba Inu.

    English Setters weigh 45 to 80 pounds when fully grown. English Setters are 1 foot, 11 inches to 2 feet, 3 inches tall at the when fully grown.

    On the other hand, Shiba Inus weigh 17 to 23 pounds when fully grown. Shiba Inus are 13 to 17 inches tall at the shoulder when fully grown.

    Temperament of the Shiba Inu Versus the English Setter

    The English Setter has a better temperament than the Shiba Inu.

    This is because the temperament score for the English Setter is 81.3 percent while the temperament score for the Shiba Inu is 67.9 percent, according to the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS).

    The American Temperament Test Society (ATTS) is a non-profit organization whose mission is to provide fair and objective evaluations of the temperaments of dog breeds.

    Dog breeds with low temperament scores tend to show unprovoked aggression, they easily panic without quickly recovering from the panic, and they tend to avoid people. However, dog breeds with high temperament scores are not aggressive and are not shy. Also, these dogs are generally friendly and they are protective of their owners.

    The average temperament score across all dog breeds (over 250 breeds) is 83.7 percent.

    With its temperament score of 81.3 percent, the English Setter has a below-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.

    With its temperament score of 67.9 percent, the Shiba Inu has a below-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.

    The ATTS obtained the temperament scores of the English Setter and the Shiba Inu by measuring the temperaments of 32 English Setters and 28 Shiba Inus.

    Price of English Setter versus Price of Shiba Inu

    The average price of the English Setter puppy is $1020. The price of the English Setter typically ranges from $800 – $1200. However, the price of a English Setter can be as low as $450 and as high as $2500. We obtained this price information by reviewing the prices of 114 English Setter puppies listed for sale from various sources.

    The average price of the Shiba Inu puppy is $2130. The price of the Shiba Inu typically ranges from $1600 – $2500. However, the price of a Shiba Inu can be as low as $600 and as high as $6995. We obtained this price information by collecting and reviewing the prices of 283 Shiba Inu puppies listed for sale from various sources.

    The Shiba Inu is more expensive than the English Setter.

    English Setter Shiba Inu
    Average Price $1020 $2130
    Price Range $800 to $1200 $1600 to $2500

    The charts below show the price distribution for the English Setter and Shiba Inu. For different price points, the charts show how many English Setter puppies or how many Shiba Inu puppies are listed for sale at those price points.

    A breakdown of the prices of English Setters. The typical price range is shaded Green.

    A breakdown of the prices of English Setters. The typical price range is shaded Green.

    A breakdown of the prices of Shiba Inus

    A breakdown of the prices of Shiba Inus

    Note that a lot of factors determine how much you can expect to pay for the English Setter puppy or the Shiba Inu puppy. This includes if health screening tests have been performed on the puppy, if the puppy is from a famous pedigree, the US State where the puppy is bred, etc.

    Nevertheless, when looking from a puppy, look at buying a puppy only from well-established breeders that breed puppies primarily for the love of dogs, and secondarily for profit. Do not buy a puppy from one of those puppy mills that mass-produce puppies in bad living conditions for maximum profit.

    You may also consider adopting a dog instead of buying a dog.

    English Setter versus Shiba Inu

    Adopting the English Setter versus Adopting the Shiba Inu

    You may consider adopting a dog instead of buying a puppy. Many English Setters and many Shiba Inus are currently available for adoption.

    These adorable and cute dogs are waiting in dog shelters hoping that someday someone will rescue them. Furthermore, adoption costs are lesser than the cost of a new puppy. Dog adoption costs are usually around $300. In addition to your local dog shelter, a good place online to see dogs that are available for adoption is petfinder.com.

    Below is an adorable Male English Setter named Rio that is currently available for adoption on Petfinder.com. You can find other lovely adoptable English Setters like Rio on pefinder.com.

    Also, like English Setters, Shiba Inus are also available for adoption. For example, Milo is a Male Shiba Inu that is currently available for adoption on petfinder.com. You can find more Shiba Inus like Milo that are up for adoption on petfinder.com.

    The English Setter and the Shiba Inu can both be adopted. Images from petfinder.com

    Remi is the name of another English Setter (Male) on petfinder.com that is looking for a new home.

    Also Akio, an adorable Male Shiba Inu on petfinder.com that you can adopt.

    English Setters and Shiba Inus are always available for adoption. Images from petfinder.com

    You can find more English Setters and Shiba Inus that are available for adoption on petfinder.

    English Setter versus Shiba Inu

    The Popularity of English Setter versus Popularity of Shiba Inu

    Every year, the American Kennel Club (AKC) publishes information on how popular a dog breed is in that particular year. The AKC gets the popularity information of a breed from how many dogs of that breed the owners register with the AKC every year. The AKC collects this data for about 200 dog breeds. The AKC collects this data for purebred dogs only(no mixed or hybrid dogs).

    The graphs and the table below show the popularity of the English Setter and the Shiba Inu over the years.

    Based on the AKC popularity data over the years, the Shiba Inu is more popular with dog owners than the English Setter. This is because, over the years, the average popularity of the Shiba Inu is 44 out of about 200 dog breeds while the average popularity of the English Setter is 95 out of about 200 dog breeds.

    Popularity of English Setter

    Popularity of English Setter

    Popularity of Shiba Inu

    Popularity of Shiba Inu

    Year English Setter Popularity Rank Shiba Inu Popularity Rank
    2013 91 46
    2014 89 47
    2015 96 45
    2016 102 44
    2017 95 45
    2018 94 44
    2019 98 45
    2020 101 43

    Health Problems of English Setter versus Health Problems of Shiba Inu

    Every dog breed has its own set of health problems that it has a tendency to develop. Therefore, there is nothing like a perfect puppy.

    Both the English Setter and the Shiba Inu are prone to certain genetic health conditions. The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) is the organization that keeps track of health problems in dogs. Based on the extensive records that the OFA keeps, the OFA knows what health problems each dog breed is naturally prone to develop. Hence, the OFA recommends which health screening that breeders should perform on a dog breed to make sure that the breeders won`t breed `defective` dog parents that can pass down defective genes to their puppy offspring.

    The more health problems a dog breed is prone to develop, the more health tests the OFA will recommend for that dog breed.

    Based on our review of OFA records, we found that the English Setter is prone to more genetic health problems than the Shiba Inu.

    This is because the OFA recommends more screening health tests for the English Setter than for the Shiba Inu.

    4 health tests are recommended for English Setter while 3 tests are recommended for the Shiba Inu.

    Below is a detailed discussion of health problems in English Setters and in Shiba Inus.

    English Setter Health Problems

    English Setters are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing English Setter puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a English Setter puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your English Setter breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen English Setters for:

  • Autoimmune thyroiditis
  • Congenital Deafness
  • Elbow Dysplasia
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for English Setters here.

    Shiba Inu Health Problems

    Shiba Inus are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Shiba Inu puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.

    The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.

    If you want a Shiba Inu puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Shiba Inu breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.

    The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Shiba Inus for:

  • Eye Examination
  • Hip Dysplasia
  • Patellar Luxation
  • You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Shiba Inus here.

    More Discussions on Health Problems in English Setters and Shiba Inus

    Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the English Setter Breed is Baer Hearing (Es) problems.

    This is because the English Setter ranks 1 out of 1 dog breeds for Baer Hearing (Es) problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 4303 English Setters, 4 of them had Baer Hearing (Es) problems.

    The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in English Setters, and how common these diseases are in English Setters relative to other dog breeds, are given below:

  • Baer Hearing (Es) problems: Rank 1 out of 1 Dog Breeds
  • Thyroid problems: Rank 1 out of 115 Dog Breeds
  • Baer Hearing Test problems: Rank 4 out of 21 Dog Breeds
  • Elbow problems: Rank 28 out of 144 Dog Breeds
  • Hips problems: Rank 70 out of 198 Dog Breeds
  • Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the Shiba Inu Breed is Dentition Database problems.

    This is because the Shiba Inu ranks 22 out of 49 dog breeds for Dentition Database problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 200 Shiba Inus, 12 of them had Dentition Database problems.

    The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in Shiba Inus, and how common these diseases are in Shiba Inus relative to other dog breeds, are given below:

  • Dentition Database problems: Rank 22 out of 49 Dog Breeds
  • Patella problems: Rank 31 out of 145 Dog Breeds
  • Elbow problems: Rank 53 out of 144 Dog Breeds
  • Thyroid problems: Rank 91 out of 115 Dog Breeds
  • Hips problems: Rank 141 out of 198 Dog Breeds
  • Eyes problems: Rank 170 out of 182 Dog Breeds
  • The table below lists the common health problems in English Setter and in Shiba Inu and the rank (prevalence), compared to other dogs, of these health problems in the English Setter and the Shiba Inu:

    Disease English Setter Rank Shiba Inu Rank
    Baer Hearing (Es) problems 1 out of 1 dog breeds Not Common
    Thyroid problems 1 out of 115 dog breeds 91 out of 115 dog breeds
    Baer Hearing Test problems 4 out of 21 dog breeds Not Common
    Elbow problems 28 out of 144 dog breeds 53 out of 144 dog breeds
    Hips problems 70 out of 198 dog breeds 141 out of 198 dog breeds
    Dentition Database problems Not Common 22 out of 49 dog breeds
    Patella problems Not Common 31 out of 145 dog breeds
    Eyes problems Not Common 170 out of 182 dog breeds

    *To learn more about each of these diseases, go to OFA.org and search for the disease.

    Again, most of these health problems can be prevented through health screening. Responsible breeders screen male and female dog parents for genetic problems. These breeders will only breed dogs that are free of genetic defects. That way, there is little or no chance that their puppies will grow up to have genetic health problems. Always ask a breeder for the list of health tests the breeder screens their dogs for before buying a puppy from such a breeder.

    Is the English Setter Better for Apartment Owners than the Shiba Inu?

    English Setters do not adapt well to apartment living.

    Shiba Inus adapt very well to apartment living.

    Tolerates Being Alone: English Setter versus Shiba Inu

    English Setters do not like to be left alone.

    Shiba Inus can be left alone for some time without problems.

    Which one drools more, the English Setter or the Shiba Inu

    English Setters do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Shiba Inus do have a very low tendency to drool.

    Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the English Setter or the Shiba Inu?

    English Setters are OK for new dog owners.

    Shiba Inus are very good for new dog owners.

    Can English Setters Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Shiba Inus Tolerate Hot Weather?

    English Setters can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Shiba Inus can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.

    Do English Setters shed more than Shiba Inus?

    English Setters shed moderately.

    Shiba Inus shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.

    Which is Easier to Groom, the English Setter or the Shiba Inu?

    English Setters are moderately easy to groom.

    Shiba Inus are very easy to groom.

    Is the English Setter Easier to Train than the Shiba Inu?

    English Setters are fairly easy to train.

    Shiba Inus are not easy to train.

    Can English Setters Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Shiba Inus Tolerate Cold Weather?

    English Setters can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Shiba Inus can very well tolerate cold weather.

    Do English Setters Bark and Howl? What about Shiba Inus?

    English Setters are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Shiba Inus are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.

    Are English Setters good family dogs? What about Shiba Inus?

    English Setters are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    Shiba Inus are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.

    How Kid-friendly are English Setters and Shiba Inus?

    English Setters get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.

    Shiba Inus get along fairly well with kids. They are quite kid-friendly.

    Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the English Setter or the Shiba Inu?

    English Setters get along very well with other dogs.

    Shiba Inus get along fairly well with other dogs.

    Does the English Setter Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Shiba Inu?

    English Setters have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.

    Shiba Inus have a moderate prey drive. They can sometimes chase after smaller animals and pets.

    Wanderlust Potential: English Setter vs. Shiba Inu

    English Setters have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.

    Shiba Inus have a high tendency to wander. They are easily distracted by other animals or objects.

    Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the English Setter

    Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the English Setter that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.

    We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the English Setter:

  • Irish Setter (83 percent match with English Setter). Here is our comparison of the Shiba Inu vs Irish Setter.
  • Other Dog Breeds That are Similar to the Shiba Inu

    Furthermore, there are other dog breeds that are very similar to the Shiba Inu that you can consider on your quest to get the best pet.

    We crunched the numbers and found that the following dog breeds have similar personality and temperament as the Shiba Inu:

  • Manchester Terrier (72 percent match with Shiba Inu). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Manchester Terrier.
  • Cardigan Welsh Corgi (74 percent match with Shiba Inu). Here is our comparison of the English Setter vs Cardigan Welsh Corgi.
  • Other Breed Comparisons that Might Interest You

    You may also be interested in how the English Setter and how the Shiba Inu compares to other breeds. So, see below the comparison of the English Setter and of the Shiba Inu to other breeds:

    English Setter Versus Other Dog Breeds

    English Setter versus American Water Spaniel     English Setter versus American Staffordshire Terrier     English Setter versus Entlebucher Mountain Dog     English Setter versus Dandie Dinmont Terrier     English Setter versus Brittany     English Setter versus Chinese Crested     English Setter versus Irish Terrier     English Setter versus Weimaraner     English Setter versus Komondor     English Setter versus Welsh Springer Spaniel     

    Shiba Inu Versus Other Dog Breeds

    Shiba Inu versus Pyrenean Shepherd     Shiba Inu versus Lowchen     Shiba Inu versus Yorkipoo     Shiba Inu versus Belgian Sheepdog     Shiba Inu versus Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen     Shiba Inu versus Pyrenean Shepherd     Shiba Inu versus King Shepherd     Shiba Inu versus Welsh Springer Spaniel     Shiba Inu versus Manchester Terrier     Shiba Inu versus Cesky Terrier     

    Conclusion: English Setter versus Shiba Inu. Which One is a Better Pet?

    In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the English Setter and the Shiba Inu better suits you and your family.